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Blue Weimaraner Site

There is already a site that is the authority on our history:  www.blueweimaraner.com. Every important detail is there. It covers our history, the WCA standard as well as genetics and the important historical articles that have been written to date on the subject. It is a lot of information. Bookmark it and read it a little at a time. To begin this site we do need a history in a nutshell, so here is mine:

History of the Blue Weimaraner in a Nutshell

In 1949, a Weimaraner was imported from Germany to the United States. This Weimaraner was named Cäsar Von Gaiberg or “Tell”. He came from excellent German lines. Tell was much darker than a typical Weimaraner and had slightly shorter ears. His coat color caused an uproar amongst many in in the Weimaraner Club of America (WCA). It gets really complicated with letters, testimonials, and investigations trying to establish the validity of his pedigree and determine his purity. Was he pure? Tell was the first historically noted Blue Weimaraner. There is a lot of confusion about whether there have been others in Europe, with intriguing leads but no established facts. We know now that what made Tell different is that genetically, “Blue” is a dilution of black whereas the coat of “Gray” Weimaraners is a dilution of brown. (Blue is a fanciful way of describing a dog coat that is a dilution of Black. It is actually a slate gray with silvery reflections. See the genetics page on the blueweimaraner site for a more thorough description of coat color genetics.) Proponents of the Blue have argued that the anomaly was due to a genetic mutation from a mother/son breeding and there are curious considerations that suggest that there may have been other Blue Weimaraners, but it’s probable that at some point the black was introduced by a cross-breeding. Probably to a Doberman.

Casar Von Gaiberg or "Tell"

The Progenitor of all Blue Weimaraners

Regardless of any “woulda, coulda, shouldas,” the fact is that his pedigree was investigated by the American Kennel Club (AKC) and accepted as valid. Controversy or not, Tell was an excellent Weimaraner. He was well-known for having an incredible nose and was used by the police for tracking. He sired 8 bench champions. He produced so well, that he was much used as a stud. Today, it is likely that he is in the pedigree of most Weimaraners in America and even Germany. There is no denying his place in the history of Weimaraners.

From 1949 to 1972, Blue Weimaraners while maybe not embraced (the controversy was still there) they were at least allowed. There were Blue Champions. In those 23 years, whether intended or not, a variation of the Weimaraner was firmly established in the United States. Twice, it came up for vote in the WCA to disqualify them and twice, it failed. In 1971 it was again placed on the ballot, but this time it was phrased as not allowing the color “Blue or Black”. From what I understand from first-hand accounts is that phrased in this way, where Black would have to be accepted as well as Blue, the ballot finally passed. At the same time, Longhair Weimaraners were also disqualified. (see article on what a disqualification means – coming soon)

When the color was voted a disqualification (DQ), many breeders respected the standard change and stopped breeding their Blues. Regardless of politics, the public still wanted Blue Weimaraners. The puppymill breeders saw an opportunity in the lack of competition and stepped in and started advertising “Rare Blue Weimaraners”. In the hands of unethical breeders, the quality of Blue Weimaraners has suffered. A small handful of passionate, ethical breeders breed in the hopes of a solution to the DQ.

The Blue Weimaraner Today

So here we are today 38 years after the DQ. The vehemence of the controversy has reached practically a blind, zealous, religious war status. The fierce pride, loyalty and affection that the Weimaraner community has in the traditional gray color is understandable. They still see Blue Weimaraners as the Barbarians at the gate. They argue that Tell was a mixed-breed and the blue variation of gray shouldn’t be accepted. To date, the arguments have usually centered on the question of the purity of Tell. What we need to realize is that this was nearly 70 years ago. Does it matter anymore? Tell is most likely in your Weimaraner. Blue Weimaraners today can not be considered anything but pure Weimaraners. As far as accepting the color variation, in essence it already was—with Tell. The variation already exists, but is like an abandoned orphan child of the Weimaraner community.

I’m sure that the WCA thought that in disqualifying Blues, they would slowly dwindle away, but did this happen? Have Blue Weimaraners gone away? Nope. The demand grows and they are more and more arriving on the shores of the old world (Europe) where they mostly have no official status. It’s time to stop reacting blindly with knee-jerk prejudice, reassess, and plan rationally and responsibly. That’s what this site is for: commenting on the current status and opening a dialogue for responsible change. I make no bones about it that it will be opinionated, pointed and aimed to puncture old beliefs that are not working. I welcome thoughtful commentaries.

It’s Time. Get involved.

Upcoming posts:
What is a Disqualification?
The Color Controversy in-depth.
Why the Disqualification hurts everyone.
Blue Weimaraners Overseas.
New Breed or Variation?
The AKC conundrum.
What can you do in your country?
Spotlights on Blue Weimaraners today. Wags and Brags.
Training Articles.

Comments

  1. Thanks for this post. It’s a shame that politics played such a huge role in the problem we have now with Blue Weims!

    • There first blue I ever saw was walking through a Sun piercing shadowy woodland. It had a soft but electric blue appearance, he took my breath away. My first pup was a Weimaraner silver gray I love Maxamillion. The way the sun danced on his coat, wow! How could that be wrong. I get where there coming from but don,t they also get that ship has long since sailed. Ty from Philly,

  2. I took in a Weim when an in-law’s neice was tired of hers and wanted to give him away…he dug holes, ate tables, etc. (he still digs, and nothing is safe from is munching ways)…I didn’t know they had blues and grays. I took him to the vet, registered him (his papers are from the Continental Dog Kennel Club) and did everything I was supposed to do. Then I started reading books and was shocked to learn that this absolutely gorgeous dog was considered an “undesirable” shade of gray. I have had so many people on the streets stop and comment on his shiny, healthy coat…they always want to know what he is and always tell me how beautiful he is. I for one, will look for another blue…when he passes on. He’s only 16 months, so hopefully that will be years away (although, the vet said he most likely has what’s closely related to hemophilia…and that is a disorder I understand “real” Weims have). If a genetics test will get them into the desired group of dogs…maybe they should look closely at the genes that bind this group, rather than the one mutation that doesn’t .

  3. I have a blue weimaraner,SPOOKY,by name. She is loyal,loving,obedient (when she wants to be) a damn fine watch dog,& she is much loved! The first time I took her hunting she pointed with her back right leg straight out! She can be obtuse & stubborn at times but she is my companion and I would not trade her for lassie. The point I’m tring to make is,It matter’s not one iota to me If she is purebred or not,but to some it does,so with todays knowledge why don’t we exhume “TELL” do a DNA test & solve the mystery once and for all if he was inbread or pure. just a thought………….P.B.

  4. Christine Carpenter says:

    I have no doubt that your blue dogs are as beautiful as any other dog. Imagine the originators of the Weimaraner breed back in the 19th century. We all know that our current breeds of dogs are made up of many others but at some point they agreed the standard of the breed they created when it bred true and they gave it the name of their city. They strived for many many years to breed a hunting dog of a very distinguished unique grey colour and no doubt along the way many dogs were discarded for the imperfection of colour. Examples of the same evolution The German Longhaired Pointer, brown and white sometimes produced a black and white, they then became the Large Munsterlander we know today. The Irish Red and White Setter produced dogs that had too much red and gradually with clever breeding became the Irish Setter we know today. The passion which the owner of the Grey feels is that we are custodians of the breed for the short time they are in our ownership and owe to our forefathers to maintain that achievement. Ther German Weimaraner Klub the originators of the breed standard and IMO the owners of the standard, not the English Kennel Club, drew up a standard for us all to follow. It does not include and never will include blue. If you deviate from that standard then it is a fault all standards state this in every breed. One could also be argued that many owners of greys are not interested in their hunting ability and this has lead to another erosion within a noble breed of dog. My opinion is that calling the blue dog a Weimaraner is what makes the blood boil. Like the examples above if the blues were to become an entirely new breed with a new name as indeed those that breed true blue to blue are creating. Let us say for the sake of arguement they are called The American Blue Pointing Dog, as America after all has created and perpetuated the change I feel sure the world of HPRs world would embrace this decision just as they have with the dogs mentioned above together with the Slovakian Roughaired Pointer. I hope this is taken in the spirit it which it is meant and not mindless flaming.

  5. Ben Steinbach says:

    Well sure is sad that the blue weimeraner was looked at as a non pure breed. I own a 3 year old female blue named Gracie and she walks talks and looks just like the grey weimeraner. We also own a 2 year old grey weimeraner. These dogs are pees in a pod they play,fight,love and work together like they were from the same litter. I have no dought that the blue weimeraner is a pure breed, if you know weimeraners and have owned and raised a blue you will have no dought as well. I will end with saying this is a cool article,its always interesting to hear the history of were our animals came from,love my dogs regardless and i will own weimeraners for life.

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